Gun Control Laws Didn’t Stop These Two Murders in North Dakota

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Posted by Duane Lester on Jan 5th, 2009 • 452 views Clicks

Two people in North Dakota lost their lives. Out of the fifty states, The Brady Campaign rates North Dakota fourty-fourth in gun control laws.

“No state restriction on the sale or possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons. Assault weapons are as easy to buy as hunting rifles.”

That should be on the recruiting literature. “Come to North Dakota, where assault weapons are as easy to buy as hunting rifles.”

“No state requirement that handgun buyers obtain a handgun license or undergo any type of safety training prior to buying a handgun.”

My goodness. People just running around with guns, oblivious to what they are holding.

“No state requirement that gun owners register their firearms. Police do not know how many guns are in the state or where they are.”

Like that’s a bad thing…

“No state restriction on the sale of Saturday night specials or “junk” handguns.”

“Junk” is gun grabber code for “affordable.”

“The state does allow the use of deadly force as a first resort in public. This dangerous law permits the average citizen to bypass our entire justice system by permitting him or her to assume the role of police officer, prosecutor, judge, and executioner.”

Deadly force is authorized as a first response…IN PUBLIC! Another line in the brochure.

Two people were murdered in North Dakota last year. They were stabbed.

No one was shot.

According to this graph, a little more than fifty percent of North Dakotans own a gun. Half the state’s population…nobody shot.

For the record, Washington, D.C. has some of the strictest gun laws in the country and the fewest legal gun owners. Guess where they stand in number of homicides with a firearm. They are #1.

Hat Tip: House of Eratosthenes, who got it from The Blogfather, who found it on Say Uncle

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15 Responses »

John Allison III on January 5th, 2009 at 7:18 am:

Excellent Post! We may never convince the radical left-wing gun-banners who want to leave victims defenseless in the face of criminals, but this should even convince some dimwits.

dave on January 5th, 2009 at 9:44 am:

look how peaceful it is in one of the least gun control regions in the world, the middle east. evil right-wing bastards. you should all move to the middle east where you can have all the guns you want and maybe you'll do the right thing and turn them on yourselves.

Thelonster on January 5th, 2009 at 9:52 am:

Dimwit?? Look who is talking…. it took 5 minutes to find that North Dakota averages about 11 homicides annually for the past several years, after a high of 22 in 1993. 16 were reported last year…. so 1 freaking year they get lucky.

In 2002 they were 38th in gun deaths, 2005 31st and rising! And there are MANY states below them that have very strict gun laws compared to ND, and have up to 1/4th of the deaths in those same years.

Gee… takes a dimwit to even make your stupid comment after comparing a shit hole ghetto ridden >50% black district (Dense city population) to a all white redneck country bumpkin state that barely even HAS a dense city. Try comparing the laws deaths to Massachusetts or Connecticut and we will see who the dimwit is… moron.

Maddmedic on January 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am:

Yes I suppose he was wrong to call use "dimwits".
It appears "moron" is your word of choice so that's what I'll use.
Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore…oppressive gun control, highest murder rates.Oh I shouldn't use Chicago!! That's where our next Messiah os from !!
White redneck country bumbkin state that barely HAS a dense city? Now what the hell does that mean MORON??

Thelonster on January 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am:

Sorry that sentence was a little to complicated for ya… what was the hard part, the part that says it is mostly white (93.19%)?? Or the dense city part?? It is the 19th largest state, and has 640,000 people, with the largest city being Fargo, at about 30,000 whole people? Comparing crime statistics from that to a city of 3,000,000 people that is 38.9% right is like comparing an apple to a freaking orange grove.

Most restrictive gun law states and firearm deaths per 100,000 in 2005
Hawaii2.2
New York5.2
Illinois7.9
Wisconsin8.5
California9.5
Maryland11.8
Massachusetts3.4

Least restrictive gun law states and firearm deaths per 100,000 in 2005
Kentucky13
New Mexico13.9
Arkansas15.7
Mississippi16
Montana16.9
Vermont 6.7
North Dakota9
Texas11

I don't give a crap about guns…. I don't care if you have one or don't.. I don't care if if the 2nd amendment means militia or civilian…. could care less…

But I do hate stumbling on extremist blogs spewing loads of BS while ignoring thousands of other facts and factors, or retarded subjects, when things like lowering the unemployment rate and reducing poverty will reduce crime more than eliminating every gun law in the country.

thelonster on January 6th, 2009 at 10:49 am:

that was 38.9% white… not right. (Chicago)

Thelonster on January 7th, 2009 at 6:03 am:

YO DUANE!!!! Are you ever going to give commentary on my factual post? And please at the same time defend you position on getting rid of help for Veterans should be equal to the welfare cuts you believe in…..

Mike A. on January 10th, 2009 at 7:51 am:

Gun Control is For the Ignorant

ManFromDelMonte on January 11th, 2009 at 11:53 am:

Hahahahahahahahaha that's the daftest comment ever, it's a really ignorant people that wants to stop it's citizens killing each other eh ? You f*ckin idiot, America has about 12 000 homicides a year, the vast majority with guns. The UK has about 3-400, and we have gun controls, you think there might be a connection ?

Duane Lester on January 12th, 2009 at 4:00 am:

ManFromDelMonte,

How are those gun control laws working as far as gun crimes go? Here, before you answer, allow me:

Following the 1996 Dunblane school massacre, in which seventeen people were killed by a man armed with two 9mm pistols, Britain passed a law outlawing the ownership of most handguns, despite researchers finding "no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession." It's a law so severe that the Britain's Olympic shooting team is forced to train abroad, lest one of its members try to shoot up a grammar school. So how effective has the law been? A doubling in gun-related crimes since the ban, naturally.

Source.

Yeah, Mike's the f*ckin' idiot. Right.

Thelonster on January 27th, 2009 at 5:37 am:

Fuck you bitch! Bush won the last election with less than 1/2 of the vote because of extremists, and pulled off 8 years of extremism with 0% of all the bi-partisan that was promised. Then finally the complacent lazy ass middle rose up and smacked the extremists down for an election.

Don't mark me wrong…. those lazy complacent people who can't even vote until everything is in the shitter, I wish they and all the extremists are gone…. kinda like this writer who could never post an actual factual rebuttal to my post. I made all his single story facts look like bullshit, and he can't even defend the post in any intellectual way whatsoever…. that's extremism… not healthy dialog.

Thelonster on January 27th, 2009 at 6:01 am:

Duane Lester!!!!!!!!!! Quit posting stupid shit and post something that contradicts my numbers directly!!! Shit that is not from like 1960 in a different country where the cops don't wear guns!!!!!

Come on… if you search REALLY REALLY hard, I am sure you can find an instance or 3 in one of those states that disputes the facts… it's kinda like based on the shit you wrote the original story on… 'Oh I will take one stat of ALL Crime statistics from a state where you have to drive 20 miles to see your neighbor or sleep with your cousin…. and compare that to the SINGLE SAME STAT in one of the highest crime high density cities in the country??????'

I guess that's why you blog gets no attention…. I can't believe Stumble brought me here.

Duane Lester on January 27th, 2009 at 7:55 am:

There is a way of making a point without being a complete jerk about it. Funny how liberals have a hard time doing that.

Please tell me about this study. Does it differentiate between murder, suicide and accidental death? How many of the "gun death" were justifiable homicides? How many were by police?

It would make sense that where there are more guns, there would be more "gun deaths." What I was talking about were "murders." I'm sure a big smart liberal like yourself can tell the difference.

So tell me, what does your study say about that?

Duane Lester on January 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm:

Here:

The seven least violent states are all shall-issue right-to-carry (RTC). Of the seven most violent states, three are non-RTC (includes D.C.) Since about 75% of all states are RTC, 43% of the worst being non-RTC makes these states over-represented at the unpleasant end. The five states with the lowest murder rate are RTC, but two of the five worst are non-RTC. The eleven states with the lowest robbery rate are RTC, but of the eleven worst, 5 are non-RTC. Nine of 10 states with the lowest assault rates are RTC, while 3 of 10 with the highest rates are non-RTC. The only exception is in rates of rape, where three of the 10 lowest are non-RTC, while only one non-RTC state is in the 10 worst.

Overall, non-RTC states average 27.8% higher violent crime rates, most notably 43.8% higher murder and 85% higher robbery rates, than RTC states. (See Table 4) The exception is rape: non-RTC states averaged 21.1% lower rates, reversing a 9-year trend where 10 states with RTC laws enacted during 1995-1996 saw their rates of rape drop faster than non-RTC states.[8]

You are welcome.

Jason on February 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pm:

Dave you're absolutely right, I mean, the murder rate in Pakistan is just unacceptable!

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